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  1. Hi Jeff,

    Thanks for digging up the background info on Reihan Salam. Someone on FR33Agents.net posted a link to the Time article and I had exactly the same reaction. It sounds like straight-up Agorism.

    I think I even saw him describe himself as a neo-con! I did some more googling and found this AntiWar.com article criticizing Salam for fearing the anti-war right (who believe that America’s dreams of Empire may destroy the American economy, society, and even the American ideology of Liberty).

    How’s that for double-take whiplash? How do you pick between the off-grid neoconservative who wants to preserve hippie culture and the anti-war, Constitutionalist conservative with a think-tank full of anarchists?

    This is definitely not the world my high-school teachers prepared me for!

    • Mark,

      Boy, you got that right! I’m glad someone else had the same reaction that I did. Salam definitely doesn’t fit into any pigeon hole that I know about! I did a search on “resilient communities John Robb” and came up with Global Guerrillas, which is on my sidebar. I’m delving into the material on that site. Interesting reading.

  2. There’s a lot to consider here, I agree. Much of this transformation is happening already, around us, in every corner, and it’s good to see it rising to the surface of societal awareness. See, for instance, the movement of growing and sustaining young farmers under the umbrella of The Greenhorns (http://thegreenhorns.wordpress.com/). There is a new generation of good hard-working folks who are embracing the changeover from reliance on “broken and brittle institutions” to forging those resilient communities Mr. Salam refers to, and providing an alternative to the cubicle/commute paradigm.

    The thing to remember is, this is happening in cities and urban areas, as well. Land is not the issue. People are exercising a level of creativity and community the likes of which have not been seen since the war rationing and food shortages of WWII sparked a nation of Victory Gardeners to grow their own food. Whole communities in inner cities are feeding themselves and the less fortunate around them, with plain old hard work and basic skills brought back to life. It’s not romantic, it’s common sense.

    • Indeed – common sense. Or necessity. I got a note the other day from a friend who said that the mayor of Detroit has proposed bulldozing a number of blocks of abandoned and vandalized houses and turning the land into a big community garden. I think that is part of what Mr. Salam is writing about – out-of-the-box solutions to pressing problems that the politicians in Washington are too busy, because they are in bed with Wall Street, to address. People are hurting and are taking control of their lives and saying the hell with the empty promises of the political class.

  3. Interesting article. I don’t think it’s possible for people to go back to self-sufficiency (why are my fonts so small? I can’t even see what I’m writing!) and become homeschooling Buddhist vegans who raise their own food, drive solar cars and reject the government. We don’t have enough land. It’s a romantic idea though and I think many people are attracted to it nowadays.

    • Well, I don’t think Mr. Salam is asking people to go back to self-sufficiency. Instead, he is describing what he sees coming up in the future. Whether he is right or wrong will become evident in the coming years. As I wrote, the article is most assuredly thought-provoking. It deserves some time to be digested. We may well have no choice but to be self-sufficient or something pretty close to it in the future.

  4. I did want to say, also, that I think it can be a very good idea for a high school senior to take a gap year after graduating before starting college (which he mentions in his essay). A year in the high-school graduate working world can be very educational and eye-opening. And for an 18-year-old to have a year to contemplate their future career path before investing in college can be quite beneficial.

    • Hi Beth,

      I truly hope you didn’t think that my comments were directed at you, personally. I don’t think you did, did you? I completely understand your situation, wanting your children to have a better shot at a higher standard of living. I think every parent wants the same for their kids. I didn’t take Salam’s piece as an attack on college, per se. Rather, I see his thoughts as being part of his orientation against “bigness”, which suffocates creativity and innovative solutions to problems. He rails against the “higher-education industry”, for instance. There are an awful lot of kids in college who are going solely for the purpose of learning a trade – an intellectual trade, that is. They are not there, like Ariel and Benjamin, to stretch their minds. They are there to learn, by rote, everything that is required to be a software engineer or whatever so that they can make gobs of money. I think if you ask your kids that they will tell you this is so. I saw it when I was in college and I think it has only gotten more pronounced.

      I watched a video interview of Salam (the link is in the post) and in that video, he was asked how he defines a conservative or something like that. His response is truly interesting: he says that he wants to preserve individuality and the creative process. Now, that is an answer that I can’t imagine any other conservative that I’ve ever run into giving. Thus, the title of the post, “This Guy is a Conservative??” The whole thrust of his piece is all about the value of the individual and, though he didn’t come right out and say it, the extent to which huge organizations and bureaucracies are stifling the creative process.

      I think one of the things that Salam would agree with is that the holy grail pursuit of college demeans the value of working with one’s hands. I went to school with a guy who took over his father’s septic tank business. He didn’t go to college, as far as I know and I did. He is a multi-millionaire and I’m not, by a very, very long shot!

      I’ve written about it before and no doubt I’ll write about it again: there is nothing wrong with not going to college. Believe me, please: college is not all that it is cracked up to be. If you leave college learning how to learn, that is absolutely wonderful, but I don’t think many students do. Does that mean I’m against college? No, not at all. But I am against huge bureaucracies that are placing ever-tighter nooses around the minds of our youth so that they conform to some standard of what an education is. Everyone learns in a different way and at a different pace and to devalue that process upsets me greatly.

      I’m very much in favor of decentralization and localization – remote authorities decreeing when, where, and what we will do with our lives goes against my grain more and more. I get crankier and crankier the older I get!! 🙂

  5. Hi, Jeff. I completely agree that his ideas are very thought-provoking and that his essay is compelling. I was just writing from the perspective of both my husband Tom and me who didn’t go to college, but are competing with those who did in looking for work. Having a degree is definitely an advantage, and I’m really glad that our two children are getting their degrees. They are now nearing the ends of their college careers and are indeed finding jobs scarce. But I know having the degrees will help, and Ariel and Benjamin tell me that college taught them how to think and expanded their vision of the world. And, by the way, I think it’s likely that Mr. Salam went to college and is probably very glad he did.

  6. Lots of food for thought there, Jeff…thanks for posting that. He certainly does put forth some intriguing ideas. I’m not so sure that the high school dropouts are “middle-class” though. I think you’d probably find most of them them to be from lower-income families. And, as someone who only has a high-school diploma, I can attest to the difficulty of finding a job when you don’t have a college degree. College might be an “overpriced status marker” but having a degree certainly helps in finding work. Or at least work that pays a living wage.

    • Beth,
      I didn’t see where he wrote that the high school dropouts were “middle class” – he simply made the observation that 3 out of 10 kids drop out of high school and that from a middle class perspective, this is irrational. Perhaps it is, but many college students graduate with stunning debt loads that disadvantage them terribly when they are trying to start out in life. Perhaps Salam is over-reaching, but his ideas are certainly provoking, if nothing else. I surely wouldn’t want to be a high school senior or a college student graduating these days – times are very tough indeed, across the board, for working people anyway.

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